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Name the very worst DeathLands book ever in your opinion?
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5/25/2010 6:05 AM

    IMO "Rat King" was just aweful to say the least.

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    5/25/2010 7:35 AM
    Rat King was very interesting.
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    5/25/2010 7:41 AM
    Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 25 May 2010 07:35 AM
    Rat King was very interesting.


    In what way?

    If I remember rightly all the posts here slammed it.
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    5/25/2010 3:23 PM

    Thanks sir.

    It's all a matter of opinion,but I'm glad you backed mine.

    No offense to Wordsmith Reprise.

    He seems like a good chap.

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    5/25/2010 3:32 PM
    Interesting. I would have expected Skydark Spawn or Black Harvest to be the ones to be mentioned first because of the general disdain for Edo von Belkom. Or, failing that, something like Salvation Road.

    I am traveling on business, but when I get back home I can do a quick analysis of the database for user-submitted reviews and I can tell you which ones actually have the lowest average rating. I have my suspicions which ones will be there...
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    5/25/2010 3:40 PM
    Ron got it spot

    Skydark Spawn
    Balck Harvest
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    Salvation road

    Have to be the worst of the bunch by a long mark in my opinion.
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    5/25/2010 7:26 PM
    I have not read any DL books past Starfall and Encounter yet, so I can't comment on the majority of the books that have been trashed on in the last ten years.

    Of the books I read I would say maybe Moon Fate was the one I liked least, and the most disappointing book would probably be Freedom Lost.

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    5/26/2010 7:02 AM

    I have not read any of the books you gentlemen have mentioned so I take your word for it that they are the worst in the series

    I did read Rat King and personnaly loathed it.

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    5/26/2010 6:03 PM
    Posted By RYAN'S BASTARD SON on 26 May 2010 07:02 AM

    I have not read any of the books you gentlemen have mentioned so I take your word for it that they are the worst in the series

    I did read Rat King and personnaly loathed it.


    Other than that which ones have you read ?
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    5/26/2010 7:33 PM

    At least the first 50?

    Layed off for a bit and came back a year ago.
    My personal opinion would be the first 30+ books are the greatest by far.

    I think maybe only one LJ book ever disapointed me and off the top of my head I can't recall it.

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    5/26/2010 7:52 PM
    Posted By RYAN'S BASTARD SON on 26 May 2010 07:33 PM

    I think maybe only one LJ book ever disapointed me and off the top of my head I can't recall it.


    Almost certainly Crucible of Time.  And there are good reasons for why it didn't hold up, so I can't really hold it against him.
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    5/26/2010 9:08 PM
    Posted By Ron Miles on 26 May 2010 07:52 PM
    Posted By RYAN'S BASTARD SON on 26 May 2010 07:33 PM

    I think maybe only one LJ book ever disapointed me and off the top of my head I can't recall it.


    Almost certainly Crucible of Time.  And there are good reasons for why it didn't hold up, so I can't really hold it against him.


    Thank you sir.
    That is the one.
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    5/29/2010 2:33 PM
    Posted By Ron Miles on 26 May 2010 07:52 PM
    Posted By RYAN'S BASTARD SON on 26 May 2010 07:33 PM

    I think maybe only one LJ book ever disapointed me and off the top of my head I can't recall it.


    Almost certainly Crucible of Time.  And there are good reasons for why it didn't hold up, so I can't really hold it against him.



    What was the story behind that book? Was it a leftover manuscript LJ had lying around that he didn't want to send in, but ended up doing so anyway? It seemed odd one of his books came out long after he was no longer writing for the series.



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    5/30/2010 1:05 PM
    Crucible of Time was LJ's last book published just over 2 years after his previous book Eclipse at noon.

    It took LJ almost 3 years to write as he was seriously ill and also had quite severe Carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands http://en.wikipedia.org/w...rpal_tunnel_syndrome which limited his ability to write or type.

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    5/30/2010 4:26 PM

    Salvation Road.....God that was seriously painful to endure.

     

     

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    6/1/2010 9:35 AM
    anything by andy boot tbh
    The other british one
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    6/3/2010 12:12 AM
    Posted By thedupleman on 01 Jun 2010 09:35 AM
    anything by andy boot tbh


    I have heard Andy Boot slammed before.
    I think the last one of his I read and hated was last year.
    Title eludes me at the moment and I am too lazy to go upstairs and forage through my DL books.
    probably about 10 books back?
    Sorry,just tired.
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    2/1/2011 3:00 PM
    The one with the unstoppable tank, behemoth, that got destroyed...
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    2/2/2011 11:09 AM
    Edit: You mean the Ranger (aka the Beast), a robotic tank. That was from Pandora's Redoubt, which also had another tank cobbled together from other vehicles, called Leviathan. The companions used that one to combat the Ranger.
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    8/30/2011 6:30 AM
    Ice and fire and watersleep
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    8/30/2011 5:48 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 30 Aug 2011 06:30 AM
    Ice and fire and watersleep

    Any particular reason why you did not like those books? I enjoyed both of them, Watersleep being one of the better books I read among the post-LJ novels I read so far.

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    8/30/2011 6:27 PM
    I would guess it has something to do with water beetle people.

    My pick would be Skydark Spawn.
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    8/31/2011 2:50 PM

    Correct Mr Miles, that and it was all a bit cheesy. And the snakes with collars in ice and fire WTF.

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    9/3/2011 12:20 PM
    Yeah, the snakes in Ice and Fire were a low point in that book, but I thought water beetle people showed up in the Baronies Trilogy, I don't remember them being in Watersleep.

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    9/5/2011 1:20 AM

    To me it has to be Doom Helix for a # of reasons.Why does Dr.Huth live when Ryans daughter dies?They chould have made it through 6 more books with her (like they have been doin with Doc for 90 some odd books).That would have been a great 100th book with Ryans kids meetin.O yea,Prophecy hurt also.

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    9/5/2011 4:08 AM
    Posted By The Phantom on 03 Sep 2011 12:20 PM
    Yeah, the snakes in Ice and Fire were a low point in that book, but I thought water beetle people showed up in the Baronies Trilogy, I don't remember them being in Watersleep.

    You are correct they didnt appear in that book, but there was some kind of freaky aquatic lifeform's that was just oh so conveniant.

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    9/5/2011 8:04 AM
    Diablo,
    Uhh, Dr. Huth doesn't live. He just doesn't die on-camera. He's left trapped deep underground with the specters. No way out.  As I had described ad nauseum what happens when a living creature was infected by specters I figured readers could fill in the blanks.

    Since Auriel was my character, not GE's, and since I didn't intend to write any more DLs I didn't see the point in not killing her.
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    9/5/2011 10:10 AM
    Doom Helix the worst? Man, that's just hurtful. How could you not love Ronbo and Ti? At least that book didn't commit the cardinal sin of being boring (I'm looking at *you*, Salvation Road...)
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    9/6/2011 5:07 AM
    skydark spawn was the worst book and the best one is any of them that has the robitic dude in them magius
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    9/7/2011 10:01 PM
    I hear ya Ap and Ron.give me a min and I'll get back
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    9/9/2011 7:58 AM
    Posted By silentalbino on 05 Sep 2011 04:08 AM
    Posted By The Phantom on 03 Sep 2011 12:20 PM
    Yeah, the snakes in Ice and Fire were a low point in that book, but I thought water beetle people showed up in the Baronies Trilogy, I don't remember them being in Watersleep.

    You are correct they didnt appear in that book, but there was some kind of freaky aquatic lifeform's that was just oh so conveniant.

    You mean the fishmen. They were genetically engineered as one of the many Totality Concept experiments (well, it was stated they were created; the TC connection is assumed). A variant also appeared in Deep Empire, and another in Downrigger Drift.

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    9/9/2011 10:26 PM
    I see what ur sayin about Dr. Huth.I just got a feelin we ain't seen the last of him.As far as Auriel goes,she was ur character and u killed her off so GE chouldn't use her.Damn u must be really pissed at GE to "can" her.Doom Helix isn't the worst DLs book I have read,its just the last book that left allot of ?s.Most of witch have been seen to.I love ur work AP but when ur pissed it shows lol
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    9/9/2011 10:44 PM

     It was kinda hurtful Ron.But that wasn't my intention just my opinion.We all know Ap is the shit.Hell maybe thats what makes a great book,one that leaves u goin "wtf".Doom Helix did that to me.Also Ron u can "meanmug" me all u want but Salvation Road was a good book. 

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    9/10/2011 5:08 AM
    Posted By Diablo on 09 Sep 2011 10:26 PM
    I see what ur sayin about Dr. Huth.I just got a feelin we ain't seen the last of him.
    Well, given that Dr. Huth is Alan's character, and Alan is not writing any more Deathlands books, I feel extremely confident that we have indeed seen the last of Dr. Huth.

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    9/11/2011 2:56 PM
    I didn't like Ice and fire either but I didn't like it because of the way the portrait Lori Quint was in that book (its the book she dies in) she went from helpful and a interesting member of the group in the first 6 books she was in, to being combative right off the bat and being a general bitch in this one, its almost like they were preparing you for her death by making you dislike her right off the bat with her arguing with Ryan and him threating to chill her at the beginning of the story.
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    9/16/2011 5:32 PM
    Just spotted Ice and Fire on cassette at a Half Price Books for $1.  Usually on the lookout for Graphic Audios but have yet to find any used ones on the shelf.  Although not a GA, the first find of any DL on audio figures it would be a least favorite.
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    9/17/2011 1:55 AM
    Posted By Sin-Eater on 16 Sep 2011 05:32 PM
    Just spotted Ice and Fire on cassette at a Half Price Books for $1.  Usually on the lookout for Graphic Audios but have yet to find any used ones on the shelf.  Although not a GA, the first find of any DL on audio figures it would be a least favorite.
       If you dont have it not a bad price? The story apart from the massive rattlers is not   bad.


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