I don't know a bit of spitroasting would maybe liven up the series,how about in a hotel room with two premiership players!!!!!!!!!!

Posted By SP on 16 Jun 2012 04:06 PM

Just this once I imagine. As before I joined these forums, I never knew the authors didn't read or become familiar with the previous novel.

I once asked Nick P about reading the previous few books in the series or the earlier ones before he wrote his efforts and was told

 "...I am paid to write books not read them, if GE were to pay me to read the old books then I would. Why (do) I need to read another writers work before penning my own?"

That is the reason NP makes the characters so unlike what they are and fills them with such sh!te as petrol powered gateways, stupid mutations etc.

Jim

Did you ask him that on here or somewhere else? What an attitude to have!!

Posted By silentalbino on 26 Jun 2012 12:29 PM
Did you ask him that on here or somewhere else? What an attitude to have!!

I posted it here, but on an earlier version of the board and like all good spine donors his reply came by way of a PM. Along with the comment in question here he also had several other less than good things to say about DL, LJ  and JA.com.

I really wish I had kept that one.

Jim

Posted By )3az )3aziah on 27 Jun 2012 11:36 AM

Posted By silentalbino on 26 Jun 2012 12:29 PM
Did you ask him that on here or somewhere else? What an attitude to have!!

I posted it here, but on an earlier version of the board and like all good spine donors his reply came by way of a PM. Along with the comment in question here he also had several other less than good things to say about DL, LJ  and JA.com.

I really wish I had kept that one.

Jim

He really should of had nothing  derogative to say about LJ, I mean why would he? The man wrote the series until he died!

I take it he doesn't post here anymore.

 

Nor has he penned a great or solid DL in years.

Why in bloody blazes had it had to be HIM to write the comeback of Dean?

AP, Chuck Rogers, or John Morgan could've done a much better job of that.

Posted By SP on 27 Jun 2012 01:42 PM 

He really should of had nothing  derogative to say about LJ, I mean why would he? The man wrote the series until he died!

I take it he doesn't post here anymore.

 

For the record....LJ quit writing DL in late 1995...he wrote one more book, Crucible of Time, which was published in 98. He passed away in February of 2000.

Posted By Jax2 on 27 Jun 2012 08:56 PM

Posted By SP on 27 Jun 2012 01:42 PM 

He really should of had nothing  derogative to say about LJ, I mean why would he? The man wrote the series until he died!

I take it he doesn't post here anymore.

 

For the record....LJ quit writing DL in late 1995...he wrote one more book, Crucible of Time, which was published in 98. He passed away in February of 2000.

I know. I also know you wrote Stone face, the book directly after his linkage was stopped (Eclipse at Noon). And I enjoyed yours and the other authors books also.

I was just stating that the author in question had zero contribution in the down-time between Eclipse at noon and Crucible in time, Moreso the first 33 books. so he really shouldn't have anything negative to say about LJ or how he wrote the series.

 

Everyone is entitled to there say, just as we are entilted to say what we think of HIS story writing ability. Nothing positive on both accounts

Posted By silentalbino on 27 Jun 2012 09:19 PM
Everyone is entitled to there say, just as we are entilted to say what we think of HIS story writing ability.

You are confusing a website with "democracy." Actually, NONE of us are entitled to ANYTHING. We are here by Ron's SUFFERANCE. Cross the line and you will cease to exist.

But one shall never cross said line. One is a paragon of virture and Justice.

SP: *sigh* Once again: Ryan has never (willingly) had sex with anyone over the course of the series besides Krysty. He was raped once by a stickie in Moon Fate, but that's it, despite many women making passes at him.

(Edit: "Over the course of the series" meaning "since he met Krysty". Technically, he's done it with a few other women, like Sharona and Hunaker, but those were years in the past.)

Baz: Wow. That explains a lot.

Double post.

 

 

Posted By Kerrick on 29 Jun 2012 01:32 AM

SP: *sigh* Once again: Ryan has never (willingly) had sex with anyone over the course of the series besides Krysty. He was raped once by a stickie in Moon Fate, but that's it, despite many women making passes at him.

(Edit: "Over the course of the series" meaning "since he met Krysty". Technically, he's done it with a few other women, like Sharona and Hunaker, but those were years in the past.)

Baz: Wow. That explains a lot.

 

Kerrick, *sigh*, Read Chill Factor. Fom your own wiki. "Gratefull for Ryan saving her life Kate seduces Ryan into having sex with her" <--- Was not forced. Also I just re-read the book again, so...

And why did you bring this up? Have I asked AP or someone again or something?

No.

 

He was also forced to bang Pyra Quade in Dectra Chain.

 

I just wish more sex in future books for the one-eyed bastard.

From these book titles it appears that the only DL writer interested in writing about extramarital sex for Ryan, willing or otherwise, over the course of more than 100 books was LJ. And he's been dead a long time. The porno content of post-apocalyptic fiction in the 80s probably helped build its reputation as the bottom of the science fiction barrel. (Please note I didn't say "garbage can.") That and plot concepts that were cliches when LJ was a boy.

Personally, writing sex scenes has always made me uneasy because I can imagine what readers are doing with their free hand. Much more difficult to visualize the same action on the part of readers if I'm describing someone getting a giant-flea-critter-acid-puke shower bath. Not that it couldn't still be happening ... and probably is. Perhaps a new site poll is in order?

I personally think LJ's sex scenes 'fit' into the series. Not EVERY book has to have it, but I liked it being a part of the series or storyline. It balanced all the violence out to me.

 

Now, I am not saying it has to be thrown in there for the sake of having a sex scene. But lets face it - sex sells. And in a world such as this, where one can die at any moment, our lizard brains scream - procreate! 

Besides, when Chuck had Jak FINALLY get a woman, (or two, such as in the last book), I found myself cheering for him. That boy needs release!

 

J.B. and Mildred I don't recall have had a sex scene. Or even an implied one! (Not in my memory, leastways.) And I can see a gifted writer penning one for them when maybe the chips are way down, and they think it might be their last day or few minutes together. 

I have a few friends, both men and women, or read this series, and they all agree, they kinda miss the old-fashioned sex scenes that used to be in these books. AP, you wrote one in your last book, or very close to your last book, that I remember. It may not have been as graphic as LJ used to write - but it doesn't have to be. The fact that Ryan and Krysty just did it on the ground, and even thought of it, was great. I recall the exact words they said to each other, but AP made it cool and touching. See, its all about balancing out all the gratuitous violence for me.

Gratuitous sex balancing out gratuitous violence? Yeah, I could see how that would work.

Still a poll would be nice. And present and future DL authors could use it as a guideline to base percentage of content on. I'm kind of surprised that GE hasn't commissioned one themselves.

Reader Survey

1) What masturbation fodder do you prefer in your DLs?

Sex

Violence

2) Does your mother know you are using her computer?

It's really weird to me how people think writing in a sex scene in a book is so 80's.

 

But the level of maximum violence is never questioned. 

 

Does that say something about today's society?

 

(And hell no my mom doesn't know I'm using her computer!)

Posted By AP on 29 Jun 2012 02:44 PM

Gratuitous sex balancing out gratuitous violence? Yeah, I could see how that would work.

Still a poll would be nice. And present and future DL authors could use it as a guideline to base percentage of content on. I'm kind of surprised that GE hasn't commissioned one themselves.

Reader Survey

1) What masturbation fodder do you prefer in your DLs?

Sex

Violence

2) Does your mother know you are using her computer?

Ask and ye shall receive.