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4/30/2013 7:27 AM
@Mike--all on the board is fair game. Your comment was for Jim. I was just inserting a fact.  As for your criticism, point taken--for some errors.
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4/30/2013 10:28 AM
Absolutely! It's all fair game of course! I was just joking around with Baz anyway. If i wanted to make a direct comment about the editing on Gold Eagle product I would have told you directly. Which I will do now since you seem interested.

It SUCKS! OUT LOUD! FACT!

Bad spelling. Poor sentence structure. Names changing. Dead characters reappearing. Factual mistakes. The same book being released twice under different titles and covers. No continuity. Generic storylines used over and over. Passages missing. Pages transposed.

FACTS!

Does anyone who read these disagree?
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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4/30/2013 10:54 AM

Whoa! I don't edit all of the books.

A lot of the errors you mentioned will be a thing of the past. You have to know the editorial process. An editor marks up a paper copy of the manuscript. That's me, at least for Deathlands and the SuperBolans. I am responsible for the overall content, impose Gold  Eagle style, blah, blah, blah. Gun errors that aren't corrected are my fault, though the writer should really be held to account for that. Then a copy editor comes along and fixes the grammar, punctuation other style issues, checks geography and other items I ask her/him to check. All of that is marked up on the paper copy. Then someone inputs all of the marked-up copy onto the electronic file of the book. This is where a lot of the errors are generated, as sometimes copy is dropped, typos inserted where they weren't there in the first place. Sounds like an excuse, but that's the way it is.

 Then the camera-ready copy is generated and a proofreader reads the final copy. Starting with Ivory Wave, edting and copy editing was done--and will continue to be done--on-line. Lots of those niggly errors will disappear. I'm confident of that.

P.S. The other problems have to be addressed by the in-house editor, not me, a freelancer. Good points, though.

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4/30/2013 12:08 PM

Again, I don't think I ever stated I thought you edited all the books.

I just finished a James Rollins novel, you know how many mistakes I found? Nada. Zip. Zero. It's too bad GE hasn't had the same standards, we'll see how that goes in the future.

Having read Gold Eagle books literally since day one, I can say the quality of their product has decreased dramatically in the past years, both from a technical and content perspective.  Sometimes I have to wonder why I even bother to keep my subscription.

BTW...I'm glad GE pays you well!  Really!  You're the first person I've ever heard say that!  Congrats!

I get paid well too!  Well enough that I can actually drop money every month on the latest shipment of shoddily executed material from GE and not care.
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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4/30/2013 1:35 PM
Posted By mikeclr on 4/30/2013 12:08:52 PM


I just finished a James Rollins novel, you know how many mistakes I found? Nada. Zip. Zero. It's too bad GE hasn't had the same standards, we'll see how that goes in the future.

Having read Gold Eagle books literally since day one, I can say the quality of their product has decreased dramatically in the past years, both from a technical and content perspective.  Sometimes I have to wonder why I even bother to keep my subscription.


The thing I always noticed, was books by one author was consistently low on errors, while another author consistently loaded with errors. This seemed to indicate that one author would put more care in the submitted manuscript, while another sent in something with little or no polish, and at the GE end not much was done between the original and the printed product. But whatever, hopefully the new way of doing things will make the final product of GE books a more professional book, like the James Rollins example and such.

And speaking of Rollins, he is a heck of a writer, one of my personal favorites, along with Steve Berry, and that guy that created Outlanders. 


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4/30/2013 2:12 PM
Posted By )3az )3aziah on 4/30/2013 6:46:50 AM
 
  
Oh and the pay can't be much worse than the less than wonderful rate that the government see fit to pay me each month!

Jim


Yeah our wonderful Government that will probably be laying off loads of loyal workers to pay for there friends in "Banking" mistakes. 
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5/5/2013 8:55 AM
They have been to Krystys. Remember when they went to the school. Krysty found out her mother had gone off, but she meet up with the blacksmith boy.

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