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The Incredible Hulk Review
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6/10/2008 8:16 PM
    It is rare to find a sequel that is as good as the original.
    It is even more rare to find one that was BETTER than the original. Very rare indeed. I can only think of one movie that I found better, and that was Terminator 2. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the first Terminator movie…
    Anyhow, I recently had a chance to catch the premier for The Incredible Hulk, starring Edward Norton, Liv Tyler, Tim Roth, and William Hurt.
    I won’t deny that I went in with serious reservations. I didn’t care for the Hulk that came out several years ago, even though it was directed by a hell of a good director – if you’re into art like movies.
    So, of course I was sceptical. In fact, I fully expected to dislike the movie, even though I am a fan of Edward Norton and several other members of the cast.
    I was very pleasantly surprised. I actually enjoyed the movie. It was far better than I had hoped it would have been.
    As is the standard case with all my reviews, I will not give away any spoilers, with the exception of what you would see in the standard trailers on the TV, internet and in the theatre.
    I would say that it wasn’t really a sequel to the Hulk, but a remake. In fact, it had far, far more in common with the original television series than the first movie.
    If you are at all familiar with the series, you already know that Dr. Banner was always on the run from the government, moving from town to town, always trying to stay one step ahead.
    That was the case with this movie. It really did feel lonely, and Norton did one hell of a job portraying this.
    Even the music was very reminiscent of the original series during the first part of the movie.
    This time around there was actual chemistry between Bruce and Betty, something that I found lacking in the original Hulk movie.
    That is what made the movie so good! The chemistry, and lets not forget the tension between the primary characters. William Hurt as General Ross was better than Sam Elliot’s portrayal, but in this case, I’d say it was the script, not the actor.
    There were several scenes with humour in it; some really made me laugh as well. Think Hunger, without me spoiling it. You’ll understand what I mean when you see it.
    Also, this time around the story was far closer to the Marvel comics than Ang Lee’s envisioning of the Hulk. That was a major improvement.
    Now, I won’t deny it… I’m not a huge comic book fan. I read many comics when I was growing up, so I do know a little about pretty much all the comic movies we’ve seen over the past decade or so.
    However, after watching the Hulk, I will say this… there were a great many tip of the hat to the Hulk comics, and many well known figures and organizations in the Marvel universe.
    Considering how many I spotted watching the movie, I was left wondering how many I missed!
    The special effects were what one would expect today with computer graphics, although I would have to say - believe it or not, that th original Hulk movie had better action sequences when the big green guy got angry.
    Still, give me superior acting over visual effects anytime.
    Oh, and there is a nice little bonus at the end of the movie. Unlike another Marvel comic brought to the big screen earlier this year, you won’t have to sit through the credits to see this nice little bonus scene.
    Yes, Stan Lee has a cameo in the movie, as he does with every Marvel movie, and Lou Ferrigno shows up as a security guard, again. He also provides the Hulks voice for the film.
    After watching this movie, I have to admit that my faith in the franchise has been renewed. It probably won’t be one of the top five movies of 2008, but it will make more than enough cash to warrant a sequel in a few years time.
    As long as they bring back the cast, I’ll be eager to see it.
    3.5 out of 5
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    6/12/2008 9:05 AM


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    We told you a few days ago here that Incredible Hulk director was running around promising a Captain America cameo in his smashing new movie. Well I saw his Hulk Monday night, and if Captain America is in there anywhere, then I sure as hell didn’t see it. I can’t even think of any place where it would have been logical to fit him in… and yes I stayed until well after the credits. There was nothing.

    Was Louis Letterier yanking our chains? It doesn’t seem so, because the boys over at Collider spoke to him today, and he’s still insisting that the Captain America cameo is in there. That either means it’s so well hidden that it’ll be difficult for most people to spot it, or they’re doing what Marvel did with Favreau’s Iron Man, and leaving the Cap cameo out of the copies of the film being shown to preview audiences.

    Captain America isn’t the only thing being left out of the movie by the way. In that same conversation with Collider Letterier reveals there’s a full 70 minutes of additional footage which will end up exclusively on the DVD. That’s almost enough footage for a second movie! It actually makes a certain kind of sense too, since there are times when The Incredible Hulk feels a little disjointed and that final, 26-minute fight scene Letterier has been promising is actually only about 5 minutes. Maybe all of the things he’s promised that aren’t actually in the movie will finally make a showing in that 70 minutes on the DVD.

    Marvel Studios has made no secret out of the fact that they’re angling for the broadest possible appeal with their superhero movies. When you’re trying to make your movie all things to everyone there will be, inevitably, casualties. In the case of The Incredible Hulk, it’s meant 70 minutes of casualties. As we told you in our story here, there are a full 70 minutes missing from the movie which will make it onto the DVD.

    We speculated earlier that those missing 70 minutes might contain the Captain America cameo director Louis Letterier promised (watch him tease it right here). Well consider that confirmed. Speaking to the site Judao, Letterier says: “There’s a point when Bruce Banner gives up on his quest for the cure and decide to kill himself. So he travels far North and reaches the Arctic Circle. You might have seen bits of it in some of the promos.” Sounds like an interesting scene, but having watched the movie on Monday I can tell you there’s nothing even remotely like it in there anywhere. The reason for that? Louis says, “The result was a very dark and strong scene, which Marvel, me and everyone else’s considered to be too hard to young audiences to take, so we’ve cut it.” The Incredible Hulk is after all, a kids movie. It’s practically a Pixar flick, right?

    Anyway, in that missing scene was Cap’s meeting with Bruce Banner. Letterier confirms, “…when Bruce arrives at his destination he meets up with Captain America!” So the cameo he’s been running around all week promising us isn’t in the movie, and it sounds like it never was. It’s on the DVD. Letterier also makes a vague promise that they’ll also have it on the internet some time this week. Of course he also told us that it would be in the movie just a few days ago, and that didn’t pan out.

    So to sum up: No Captain America in The Incredible Hulk, but it’s completely safe to take your kids to see a movie about a guy who gets mad, turns green, and beats the crap out of anyone and everything around him. Marvel is all about family entertainment.

    The confusion over whether or not Captain America is actually in The Incredible Hulk continues. Let’s trace the timeline for a minute, before we get into the latest news on what’s up this mess:

    June 6: Originally here, Hulk director Louis Letterier said: “In Iro Man there’s the Captain America shield somewhere. Well in Hulk, you might see Captain America himself.” Remember the part where he said “Captain America himself”. It’s going to be relevant later.

    June 9: I see The Incredible Hulk, and Captain America is nowhere to be found.

    June 10: Louis Letterier reveals that a full 70 minutes were cut from The Incredible Hulk, and will only be available on DVD. Read that here.

    June 11: Louis Letterier talks about some of the footage which is in the 70 minutes cut from the film. He describes a journey by Bruce Banner into the Arctic and says, “…when Bruce arrives at his destination he meets up with Captain America!” Since he’s discussing the extra footage on the DVD, we all assume here that this means the Captain America scene will not be in the movie, but be on the DVD.

    That brings us to today, when the folks over at Latino Review interview Incredible Hulk producer Gale Anne Hurd. When asked what Louis Letterier meant when he said Captain America was in the film, she says: “He didn't really mean the character of Captain America, unless there's something that I don't know. It's the serum.” Basically, she’s saying Captain America isn’t in the film at all. Not in the theatrical cut and not on the DVD. Except Louis Letterier was pretty clear in saying that it was the character of Captain America.

    Remember that quote I told you to remember? The one where he said “you might see Captain America himself.” He didn’t say you’d see the serum that makes Captain America or something associated with Captain America, he said “Captain America himself.” Plus, on June 11 he talked about Hulk seeing Captain America in the Arctic. The serum isn’t in the Arctic…. Heck the Arctic isn’t even in the theatrical cut at all, yet I’ve seen the serum scene that Hurd is talking about. In fact, the picture I posted above is the scene in question. That blue stuff in the vial? That’s what Hurd is talking about. That’s Captain America. I’ll post a bigger version of it below.

    It’s really starting to look like Louis Letterier is simply a liar, touting a cameo in hopes of luring more people into buying tickets to his movie, even though no such cameo exists. If that’s really what’s going on, that is not at all cool. Fans deserve better than to be lied to.

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    6/12/2008 4:52 PM

    Cap is allegedly frozen under the ice, sort of how Namor had found him back in Avengers #4.  Course Cap would be in his tattered army uniform while obscured a la John Carpenter's [i]The Thing.[/i]

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