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Deathlands 101 - Lost Gates
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5/1/2011 11:25 AM

    This is the official thread for comments on Deathlands #101 - Lost Gates

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    You can submit your own review HERE

    Be warned, this thread may contain spoilers for the book.

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    8/25/2011 4:27 AM
    Hey there does anyone have any info about the storyline for this one, as so far have only seen the cover on amazon?
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    9/24/2011 4:52 PM
    Just recieved an e-mail from amazon.co.uk telling me that "lost gates" was no longer going to be available,as i had it pre-ordered. What's going on GE? Ron the people demand answers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    9/24/2011 7:17 PM
    I have no idea. Although I am on friendly terms with several authors who have written for GE, I have never spoken to anyone at GE in an official capacity. I do get some insider knowledge from time to time, but in this case I just don't know. Sounds like there is some kind of export issue to the UK, but that's nothing but a guess. I'll let you know if I hear anything more detailed.
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    11/20/2011 1:47 AM
    Just got done with this one. Its a really good read. Good
    Story line. This could be like a book of short stories with
    All the different readouts they visit.brings it back a little
    After PR. Kind of repetitive though. Overall kicks Mutie
    Ass.
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    11/21/2011 12:30 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 24 Sep 2011 04:52 PM
    Just recieved an e-mail from amazon.co.uk telling me that "lost gates" was no longer going to be available,as i had it pre-ordered. What's going on GE? Ron the people demand answers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I gave up on Amazon.uk after they did just that with several DL books. I now use Amazon.com, pay about £1 more and get the books quicker than I did from 100 miles down the road.

    Go figure?


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    11/24/2011 12:38 PM
    I've got the next 2 ordered with the british outfit but i'm fully expecting an e-mail with bad news. On the plus side lost gate's is here but i'm month's behind on my reading, i'm afraid the ps3 and skyrim have alot to answer for.
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    11/29/2011 12:48 AM

    It turned out to be an average book.  The overall storyline was good, various twists and turns that made these parts a good read.  The excessive verbage outlining every thought, issue and feeling regarding every little thing made it tedious.  I ended up skimming about 40% of the story...you might too.

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    12/9/2011 4:48 AM
    i red this one when i was at home last week and thort it was ok but not one of the best ones in my top 10. i did think it was like a lot of short storys put together to make a full sorty tho.it was rushed a bit at the end with it all being sorted in six pages. i did see one mistake when it says that kristy chamberd a bullet into her gun wich she cant do as its a revolver gun.
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    12/30/2011 7:34 PM
    I thought it was a good story concept .That said I found it a bit odd that the great secret of the redoubts & gates was so widely known all of a sudden . I thought for sure that the companions would have killed everyone from the Barons sect team who might possibly have known the secret . To see two redoubts with cold hearts living in them was very odd.
    The small muties and big white worms in that one redoubt seem like a rehash of things we have seen before. I wonder if those muties were a genetic experiment gone bad . It seems to me that 100 years is really not long enough for the degree of regression that we see in those muties .
    The use of gas by Doc seemed a bit odd as I thought contact with nerve gas even in small doses was debilitating to the victim.
    Still not to bad a story .
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    4/10/2012 10:48 AM
    Finished it lastnight, was a good idea but just didnt seem to get where it needed to get to. Below average. Was my 3rd attemped to read it, skimmed alot of the "filler".
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    4/10/2012 6:04 PM
    Lost gates was a good idea done poorly. The idea of the group doing multi jumps in a single book is no new idea but if done correctly it could have made for an interesting tale. However as already noted above the fact that here we now have many groups of people that all know how the Mat Trans work encountered one after another -and then quickly forgotten about, just made the holes in the plot that much bigger.

    The rapid development and degeneration of some muties is something that DL has always taken with a pinch of salt, other post holocaust series did the same in there time. Mark came up with a valid theory about the stickies, and other -ies type developments but you can't put that label on everything.

    The worms and dwarf like creatures are lifted directly out of previous DL books and show a lack of imagination or just sheer laziness on the part of Andy Boot who penned this one. Sadly LJ had Andy Boot ear marked as the number one replacement for him when he handed over the reins, I really do wonder what LJ would have made of his work -as well as the others that have penned titles since?

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    4/10/2012 6:29 PM
    Laziness i think. We need to get Chuck or AP writing DL Regularly.
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    4/10/2012 7:04 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 10 Apr 2012 06:29 PM
    Laziness i think. We need to get Chuck or AP writing DL Regularly.


    AP votes for CHUCK!

    Mr. Albino, you're looking at it the wrong way--at the final product not the backstory. It isn't necessarily laziness on the part of any of the writers. More likely it's the result of for-shit pay and no royalties. You want good books, but why would anyone in their right mind put in that much effort for so little return?

    I'm not in my right mind, never have been. Chuck's excuse has yet to find the light of day.

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    4/10/2012 7:19 PM
    But it has to be said you did write Cannibal Moon mon cher. For the same pay as the rest of the writers im sure.
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    4/10/2012 7:55 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 10 Apr 2012 07:19 PM
    But it has to be said you did write Cannibal Moon mon cher. For the same pay as the rest of the writers im sure.


    LIke I said, I'm nuts. OCD Central.

    And truth be told, I always worked at my own pay rate, grandfathered in because I'd written for GE so long. (GE says it pays everyone the same, but that's bullshit.) I'm not going to go into details, water under the bridge, but it still wasn't nearly enough.  And it was a flat rate, no royalties on the paperbacks or audio books.

    Here's a clue: royalties on multiple titles in backlist (books already published) is what finances a writer's retirement. Working for GE is like doing day labor for chump change.

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    4/10/2012 9:32 PM
    But surely it was an honour and privilige to work for GE, so that would outweigh any financial benefitsJOKES
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