Ron MilesWebsite Owner  Commander In Chief Posts:864  
| 1/1/2011 3:50 PM |
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This is the official thread for comments on Deathlands #100 - Prodigal's Return
The bibliography page is located HERE
You can submit your own review HERE
Be warned, this thread may contain spoilers for the book. "Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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| 3/1/2011 5:33 PM |
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I wondered how long it would take for Dean to return. The 100th novel in the series seems appropriate I guess. The way things are going with this series and the "Outlander" series I'm going to have to get a bigger bookcase!
I know a lot of the books have a base plot of arriving in a redoubt, going out and one or more of the characters experience capture, near death etc. but there is enough subtle differences to make each installment different and that's why I keep buying them.
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Canadian Nomad New Member Posts:8 
| 6/1/2011 11:58 AM |
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Anybody know if this book is going to be longer since it's the 100th - i.e. double size???
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor  Basic Member Posts:150 
| 7/15/2011 4:51 PM |
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Anybody have an opinion on the cover art of #100? It's not what I expected and in no way reflects what I suggested.
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
| 7/16/2011 2:57 PM |
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My copy just arrived in today's mail. (Standard sized, 315 pages). I need to finish up Alas, Babylon and then I will dive in.
"Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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The PhantomBasic Member Posts:219 
| 7/16/2011 4:45 PM |
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Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 15 Jul 2011 04:51 PM
Anybody have an opinion on the cover art of #100? It's not what I expected and in no way reflects what I suggested.
I looks like they used the same guy for both Ryan and Dean. Just remove the eyepatch and there you go.  |
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APPublished Author  Veteran Member Posts:346 
| 7/16/2011 7:14 PM |
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Posted By The Phantom on 16 Jul 2011 04:45 PM
Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 15 Jul 2011 04:51 PM
Anybody have an opinion on the cover art of #100? It's not what I expected and in no way reflects what I suggested.
I looks like they used the same guy for both Ryan and Dean. Just remove the eyepatch and there you go.
The wind is gusting so strongly that it's blowing Mini-Me's duster straight out behind him, but oddly enough the strap on Ryan's rifle is hanging straight down. Perchance the young prodigal in the act of kneeling just passed a great "fartie" (rad-mutated DL bowel vapor)? Or he has passed so many great farties during his long absence that the tail of his coat has stiffened into a permanent horizontal position? Ryan appears about to let one rip, too, but in middle-east celebration, gunshot in the air style—note the finger curled around the trigger. The customary eye patch looks more like way-too-hip-for-the-hellscape sunglasses; for some reason RC reminds me of a young Gary Busey in a Wal-Mart Halloween wig. |
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
| 7/17/2011 6:22 AM |
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I'm pretty sure Ryan is really Lou Reed  "Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
| 7/17/2011 10:06 AM |
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Posted By Ron Miles on 17 Jul 2011 06:22 AM
I'm pretty sure Ryan is really Lou Reed
Wow, that explains SO much.  |
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silentalbino Advanced Member Posts:742
| 8/25/2011 4:52 AM |
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Yeah guys the cover art is a bit shoddy for a series that has always been very artistic.
Hopefully we will now see a younger version of Mr R Cawdor running around with the gang again, being a little bit more helpfull than the one who just got kidnapped every five minutes.
Will Dean survive prodigals return? Most likely. But will he turn up in Lost gates? Has anyone told the other authors off this radical thinking? something actually changing in the series?
And now Dean has returned to the fold, can we expect Abe and the Trader to get off the next "stickie"wag(think greyhound) from two-son ville?
Only time will tell. |
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KerrickBasic Member Posts:322
| 8/26/2011 7:49 AM |
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They DO look identical, right down to the ripped right knee in the jeans.  I don't really have an opinion on it overall, beyond that it's really focused - normally the art has one or more of the companions in the foreground, facing off against a mutie or bad guy and a hellscape background. As for Abe/Trader: They're dead. |
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
| 8/26/2011 12:09 PM |
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Abe and Trader dead? Hmm. Their backs may be against the proverbial wall, but no one's seen the dead and bleeding bodies.
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197 
| 8/27/2011 3:05 PM |
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Since it seems Gold Eagle now likes to take old books, change a few words, and release them as NEW books, you could very well be seeing Abe and Trader again sooner than you think!
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197
| 8/28/2011 11:03 AM |
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Please, feel free to speak your mind. I'm dying for some information on this issue.
Seriously, if GE would do this with the Stony Man series, why not Deathlands?
This should be a concern to all regular GE consumers I would think.
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
| 8/28/2011 12:31 PM |
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Not sure what Cathy said, I didn't see it before she deleted her own post. Regarding the recycled novel controversy, I don't have any insider knowledge on that at all, but I really don't think it was intentional on the part of GE. I think it is much more likely that the author submitted the copied book (either knowingly, or by taking an existing manuscript that he had forgotten he had already submitted), and the line editor didn't notice.
Do you have any more reliable information?
"Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
| 8/28/2011 12:45 PM |
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Mike, that would not happen in a Deathlands novel. I have edited every manuscript since Crater Lake. I might miss gun stuff, but I can spot a recycled plot. I have every synopsis, and I can access Harlequin's electronic database to check stuff--plus I am a keen fan of the series. In another series I edit, I have found chapters from a different series mixed in, with different characters, but that was a blatant problem with files and not an attempt to hoodwink GE or the reader.
I have no idea what happened with Nathan's book, as I have been out of the GE loop since Feroze retired. I got the standard response. I suspect the whole mess will be handed over to the Legal Department to sort out. I deleted my last post, as I did not want to get into an arguement with you, Mike. You don't seem to be a big fan of GE.
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197
| 8/28/2011 3:28 PM |
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Really?
As the owner of literally hundreds and hundreds of GE books from SOBs to Rogue Angel,...ncluding dozens of complete series like Earth Blood, Time Raiders, SLAM, Track, Heroes Of War, etc ad nauseum...I can say I AM a fan and reader of Gold Eagle books.
I've been a subscriber to their Reader Service since I first received a comp proof copy of Executioner #39 in the mail months before it even hit the stands thanks to being on a list of fans who had corresponded with Don Pendleton.
I am NOT a fan of being ripped off and shoddy business practices!
I would love to have more "reliable information" but GE has seen fit to basically ignore our inquests, I don't see any coming.
I'm glad Deathlands is in such good hands. Too bad the Stony Man team can't say likewise.
As a consumer I can't afford to drop a dime on recycled crap, let alone 44 bucks a shipment.
If it was a simple mistake on anyone's part, no biggie. I get it.
But unfortunately this reeks of thinking your customers are idiots who will never notice BS when you feed it to 'em.
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
| 8/28/2011 4:01 PM |
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Posted By mikeclr on 28 Aug 2011 03:28 PM
I would love to have more "reliable information" but GE has seen fit to basically ignore our inquests, I don't see any coming.
If this is something that has been turned over to legal, it could very well be a case where GE has been advised by their lawyers to not talk about it publicly. (Again, that is pure conjecture on my part, I have no inside information regarding this incident). If there is a legal case pending (in *either* direction), it could severely impact potential damage recovery to talk about it in a public forum. "Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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KerrickBasic Member Posts:322
| 8/28/2011 8:06 PM |
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Well, you're the editor, Wordsmith, so you know more than I do.  I'm basing my info on the following: It's been 16 years since Shadowfall (their last appearance), and Straub strongly implied in Circle Thrice that they're dead. Flimsy evidence, I know, but since we haven't heard anything about them since (and the companions have been all over the country, so unless those two were hiding, some rumors would've popped up), it's a pretty safe bet they're dead. Presonally, I'd rather they were - I don't want to see another Sharona Carson, TYVM. Re: The legal controversy: Ron's most likely right; it's standard procedure to clamp a lid on such things to avoid liability issues and such - you always hear people in news stories speaking about things anonymously because they're not supposed to be talking about ongoing investigations or whatever. |
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