Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor  Basic Member Posts:150  
| 8/29/2011 3:36 AM |
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Kerrick, are you old enough to remember Bobby Ewing? Just kidding. We wouldn't go there. But Mack Bolan, the stalwart of other GE series, was killed of by his creator in #38, only to rise again and live on published by GE. So, you can never say never, cliché that that is.
Dean is out of Sharona's clutches again in #100. Don't know if we'll see her again. I hope not.
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silentalbino Advanced Member Posts:742
| 8/29/2011 5:01 PM |
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Has anyone read it yet? Getting so BORED waiting for the postie(mailman)!
And Ron if you have are you allowed to give us any snippet's or are you sworn to secrecy?
P.s can you buy them direct fron GE and if so do they come any earlier?
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner  Commander In Chief Posts:864 
| 8/29/2011 6:21 PM |
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I read it several weeks ago, and really liked it quite a bit. And yes, if you get them from the GE Reader's Service you get the books usually a month or two before they hit the bookstores.
"Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197 
| 8/29/2011 7:50 PM |
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Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 29 Aug 2011 03:36 AM
Kerrick, are you old enough to remember Bobby Ewing? Just kidding. We wouldn't go there. But Mack Bolan, the stalwart of other GE series, was killed of by his creator in #38, only to rise again and live on published by GE. So, you can never say never, cliché that that is.
OMFG! Wow. If you are going to name drop Mack Bolan you should get your facts straight. NO WAY, NO HOW did Don Pendleton "kill" Mack Bolan in Executioner #38! That is just so flat out wrong as to be ridiculous. The whole "Second Mile" scenario in books #33 to #38 was a lead in to Mack faking his death at the end of the story to lead into his working with Hal Brognola and the government sponsored Stony Man. At no time in the story did Don (or Mike Newton) either "kill" Mack or lead his readers to think that Bolan might be dead. The reader was in on the plan from the beginning. You can't honestly be saying that Gold Eagle somehow saved Mack Bolan from oblivion can you? It was always Don's plan to continue the series in a new direction. Just out of curiosity did you actually read Satan's Sabbath? N' no I am not trying to start anything, I am correcting an erroneous statement. Sheesh! "Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
| 8/30/2011 3:27 AM |
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No, I'm not saying that GE saved Mack from oblivion. Yes, I did read Satan's Sabbath. I banged off the post and should not have said that Don "killed" him off. I knew the plan. The statement was in the context that someone can appear to be dead, but not really be dead. Jeez, my apologies for misspeaking. Yes, Don licensed the Bolan character to Harlequin so that the brand could continue to be published. As far as I know, Don planned to stop writing Bolan after a certain number of books. If Harlequin hadn't licensed the brand, then someone else probably would have.
And that, kids, is why I seldom post. Too easy to be misinterpretd when you choose the wrong turn of phrase. Not a poke at you, Mike, just a general comment. And thanks for pointing that out. I always try to get things right. Sometimes, I fall a little short when trying to make a point.
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197
| 8/30/2011 6:54 AM |
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Don Pendleton fans are a loyal breed. We stand by truth.
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
| 8/30/2011 6:56 AM |
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Me too--both a fan and standing by the truth. I've read the first 38, and either edited, proofread or copyedited 39-399. I just misused a phrase. I'll be more circumspect in future for sure.
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KerrickBasic Member Posts:322
| 8/30/2011 8:10 AM |
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We really need multiquote... **Kerrick, are you old enough to remember Bobby Ewing? Just kidding. We wouldn't go there.** I am, but I never watched Dallas. Thankfully, Wikipedia filled me in on the details.  **But Mack Bolan, the stalwart of other GE series, was killed of by his creator in #38, only to rise again and live on published by GE. So, you can never say never, cliché that that is.** I don't mind the "returning from the dead" thing if it's done well... but it's hardly ever done well. Sure, the first time he wandered off into the wilderness, presumably to die; LJ brought him back, and it was believable. The next time, the companions rowed away with Trader/Abe surrounded by Straub's men. They could have survived... but bringing them back after this long smacks of "we need a new plot, so let's dig Trader up". He and Ryan were constantly fighting the last time, and both men agreed it was better if they split up. Let dead Traders lie, I say. **Dean is out of Sharona's clutches again in #100. Don't know if we'll see her again. I hope not.** Amen to that. **Me too--both a fan and standing by the truth. I've read the first 38, and either edited, proofread or copyedited 39-399. I just misused a phrase. I'll be more circumspect in future for sure.** And you an editor. For shame!  |
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
| 8/30/2011 8:20 AM |
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I should know better than to bang off a post without rereading it, but I'm as the office and shouldn't be on the Net!
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Jax2Published Author  Veteran Member Posts:269 
| 8/30/2011 10:01 AM |
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Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 30 Aug 2011 03:27 AM
As far as I know, Don planned to stop writing Bolan after a certain number of books.
After the ill-conceived lawsuit Harlequin filed against Don, they ended up having to pay him an considerable amount of money per year not to write anything, much less Bolan. According to an unimpeachable source, Don always intended to keep his writing hand in the Bolan saga, albeit infrequently. |
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
| 8/30/2011 10:35 AM |
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Good Lord! Harlequin sued Don? Holy cow! THAT I didn't know.  |
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346 
| 8/30/2011 11:52 AM |
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Posted By Jax2 on 30 Aug 2011 10:01 AM
Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 30 Aug 2011 03:27 AM
As far as I know, Don planned to stop writing Bolan after a certain number of books.
After the ill-conceived lawsuit Harlequin filed against Don, they ended up having to pay him an considerable amount of money per year not to write anything, much less Bolan.
According to an unimpeachable source, Don always intended to keep his writing hand in the Bolan saga, albeit infrequently.
Mark, When did this lawsuit take place? Didn't Don publish the Ashton Ford series with Warner Books in 1986, and the Joe Copp series with Donald Fine in 1988? AP |
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Sin-Eater New Member Posts:42
| 8/30/2011 12:29 PM |
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Posted By AP on 30 Aug 2011 11:52 AM
Posted By Jax2 on 30 Aug 2011 10:01 AM
Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 30 Aug 2011 03:27 AM
As far as I know, Don planned to stop writing Bolan after a certain number of books.
After the ill-conceived lawsuit Harlequin filed against Don, they ended up having to pay him an considerable amount of money per year not to write anything, much less Bolan.
According to an unimpeachable source, Don always intended to keep his writing hand in the Bolan saga, albeit infrequently.
Mark,
When did this lawsuit take place? Didn't Don publish the Ashton Ford series with Warner Books in 1986, and the Joe Copp series with Donald Fine in 1988?
AP
http://mydropsofink.blogs...-don-pendletons.html
Here's mention of the lawsuit on Linda Pendleton's website.
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
| 8/30/2011 12:39 PM |
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So HQ had to pay a big licensing fee to Don AND money due to a lawsuit?
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Jax2Published Author Veteran Member Posts:269
| 8/30/2011 1:14 PM |
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They had to pay him 200 thousand dollars a year for NOT writing The Executioner series. A classic backfire. Alan--I believe the lawsuit happened in 1987. The trigger of the suit was due to the Ashton Ford series because Warner Books promoted the debut novel with a cover blurb claiming Don was the creator of the Executioner. Harlequin accused Don of violating a non-compete clause...even though Don had offered the Ford series to Gold Eagle first and they rejected it. Although Don was triumphant, the fallout was that Mark Howell, the first GE editor and by all accounts a stand-up guy, was fired because he made statements supporting Don. And...we know what happened after that...  |
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
| 8/30/2011 2:03 PM |
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Sin-Eater,
Looks like a different law suit--one versus Pinnacle (1973).
AP
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Jax2Published Author Veteran Member Posts:269
| 8/30/2011 2:45 PM |
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The Harlequin vs. Don suit was totally different than the one involving Pinnacle, although I don't doubt an attempt at a rights grab was part of the motivation.
Linda gave me some interesting details about it a few years back.
Speaking of Linda (who as everybody knows is a class act all the way down the line), she facilitated the licensing agreement between the estate of Dick Prather and Sequential Pulp, a graphic novel imprint of Dark Horse.
So guess who is contracted to adapt Shell Scott into series of graphic novels?
No, your first guess is wrong.
It's me.
I'll put up more details on my blog later this week.
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
| 8/30/2011 4:19 PM |
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I think it was a different Mark Howell, too. You couldn't be referring to the same person who hired me to work for GE in 1982.  |
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Jax2Published Author Veteran Member Posts:269
| 8/30/2011 4:56 PM |
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Heh.  Well, I never met the man. I'm only repeating what a couple of other people told me about him...Eva, for one. |
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
| 8/30/2011 5:16 PM |
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Eva was (is, I hope) a great person. I still regret that she and I lost touch after she got the Golden Parachute. I guess working for "the man" in the Toronto office was different that being a series author under contract. I remember being elated that he was gone, and so hopeful that at last things would change for the better. Alas, the job titles changed (everyone working under him was promoted) but nothing else. Everything you find troubling  about the company has existed from its inception. |
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